In last week’s article, we reviewed a Supreme Court case called Little v Hecox in which the Supreme Court will reverse a Ninth Circuit decision that falsely claimed that the Trans Drug Cult was a protected class. In this week’s article, we will review another Supreme Court case called Chiles v Salazar in which the Supreme Court will reverse a Colorado court decision that the Trans Drug Cult can ban child counselors from telling children the truth about the dangers of Trans Drugs. A hearing on the Chiles case was heard by the Supreme Court on October 7, 2025 and the questions asked by the Justices made it clear that the majority will rule that preventing counselors from telling kids the truth about Trans Drugs is a violation of the First Amendment of the US Constitution. The significance of this case here in Washington state is that in reversing Chiles v Salazar, the Supreme Court will also reverse an identical Ninth Circuit case called Tingley v Ferguson. The reversal of Tingley v Ferguson will finally expose our Governor Bob Ferguson as a con artist, a liar, and a crook who disregards our First Amendment Rights in order to promote and protect his Trans Drug Cult accomplices. It will also open the door to finally telling children and parents here in Washington state the truth about drawbacks of the Trans Drug Cult – putting the final nail in the Trans Drug coffin.
Background of Tingley v Ferguson
In 2018, the Washington legislature passed Senate Bill 5722 – a new law that banned counselors from telling gender confused children the truth about the dangers of Trans Drugs. As insane as it sounds, Senate Bill 5722 requires licensed counselors in Washington to promote state-sponsored child abuse and life long drug addiction by encouraging gender confused children to take toxic Trans drugs.
This crazy law is an attack on our free speech rights under the First Amendment. It is also an attack on the scientific method as science requires the ability to consider all points of view – and not be limited to only the official dogma. Finally, this new law is an attack on at-risk children – because it forces children to go down a deadly drug addiction path and prevents them from having access to counseling that might help them overcome their mental health problems. Any counselor that has the courage to tell children and their parents the truth about Trans Drugs can be subjected to a fine of $5,000 and lose their Counselors license.
Since 2018, Bob Ferguson and his accomplices in the Teachers Union and the legacy media have been telling several Big Lies – including his claim that kids will commit suicide if they are not encouraged to take Trans Drugs. In fact, study after study has shown that giving kids drugs instead of counseling increases their risk of suicide. The driving force behind this law is not a concern for gender confused kids - but the extreme greed of drug corporations that is making billions of dollars in profits by getting vulnerable children addicted to toxic Trans drugs.

Brian Tingley is a a licensed marriage and family counselor in Washington state who challenged the Constitutionality of Senate Bill 5722 as a violation of his First Amendment right to speak the truth to children and their parents.
The crazy Ninth Circuit agreed with Ferguson and in 2023 Tingley appealed the Ninth Circuit decision to the US Supreme Court. While most of the Supreme Court justices were fooled by Ferguson’s false claim about kids killing themselves if they do not get Trans Drugs, two justices, Brett Kavanaugh and Clarence Thomas, were not fooled and would have granted the appeal. Thomas authored a 6 page dissent you can read at this link: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/22-942_kh6o.pdf
Here are quotes from his Dissent: “This case is not the first instance of the Ninth Circuit restricting medical professionals’ First Amendment rights, and without the Court’s review, I doubt it will be the last…We warned that “regulating the content of professionals’ speech ‘poses the inherent risk that the Government seeks not to advance a legitimate regulatory goal, but to suppress unpopular ideas or information… Under SB 5722, licensed counselors cannot voice anything other than the state-approved opinion on minors with gender dysphoria without facing punishment... Although the Court declines to take this particular case, I have no doubt that the issue it presents will come before the Court again. When it does, the Court should do what it should have done here: grant certiorari to consider what the First Amendment requires.”
2025 US Supreme Court learns the Truth about the Trans Drug Cult
In 2019, the Crazy Cult in Colorado passed a Child Counseling ban similar to the Washington state 2018 ban. This Colorado ban was challenged in the case called Chiles v Salazar. Kaley Chiles, a licensed professional counselor, brought a federal civil rights challenge to the law, arguing that it violates both the free speech and free exercise clauses of the First Amendment because it interferes with her ability to communicate with her clients.

The district court denied her request for a preliminary injunction and by a divided vote, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 10th Circuit affirmed. Judge Harris Hartz dissented, citing Supreme Court precedent recognizing that “speech is not unprotected merely because it is uttered by professionals.”
On November 8, 2024, Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF) on behalf of Chiles, appealed the 10th Circuit decision to the US Supreme Court. A dozen pro-freedom groups filed Amicus briefs in support of Chiles. Links to all of these briefs can be found at this link: https://www.supremecourt.gov/docket/docketfiles/html/public/24-539.html
The good news is that, in March 2025, the US Supreme Court accepted this case and held a hearing on this case on October 7, 2025. It is likely that their decision will be in favor of Chiles and will be issued in Spring 2026. Their decision will finally overturn the 9th Circuit decision in Tingley v Ferguson – allowing us to repeal 2018 Senate Bill 5722 as part of our Family Rights Initiative we will be submitting in 2028.
Here we will briefly quote from the Chiles Petition to the US Supreme Court as well as some of the Amicus briefs to see why the US Supreme Court changed their mind – and to provide us with facts to help change the minds of Independent voters in the 2028 election here in Washington state. Here is a link to the Chiles Petition to the Supreme Court:
The Petition is 280 pages long. But only the first 44 pages are the Petition. Here are a couple of important quotes:
“An independent policy review commissioned by the English National Health Service noted the urgent and unmet need for mental health services to support “gender-questioning young people.” The Cass Review, Independent Review of Gender Identity Services for Children (Apr. 2024). “
“The Cass Review linked this shortage to restrictions like Colorado’s. Such restrictions have “left some clinical staff fearful” of “providing professional support” to young people at all. That result leaves detransitioners— those who adopted a transgender identity but now identify with their biological sex—with no counseling support whatsoever in much of the United States.”
“By upholding counseling censorship, the Tenth Circuit’s ruling here and the Ninth Circuit’s in Tingley tell countless minors they have no choice but to medically transition (aka take Trans Drugs).
“Recent studies show that those who desire harmony with their bodies and seek counseling find “significant improvement” with depression, anxiety, and suicidality and experience no “adverse or negative effects.” Cass Review at 153. “
On December 9, 2024 the Ethics and Policy Center filed a 31 page brief supporting Chiles at this link. This brief provides links to some of the latest research on the drawbacks of giving kids toxic Trans Drugs. Here are a couple of quotes:
“The numbers of minors identifying as transgender and seeking hormonal and surgical body modifications has increased exponentially.”
“Since 2021, 26 states have examined the evidence for youth gender affirmation and responded by passing laws restricting or banning most gender transition interventions for minors.”
A person’s sex is imprinted in every cell of the person’s body and cannot change. Feelings cannot override or erase this truth. When an adolescent seeks affirmation of an identity at odds with reality, the therapist has an ethical duty to speak the truth, not to validate the minor’s false self-perception. It is profoundly unethical to reinforce a male child’s belief that he is not a boy, or that he “is” or can “become” a female. It is similarly unethical for a therapist to tell a female patient that her self-perception that she “is” a boy overrides the reality of her female-sexed body.”
“Decades of research show that nearly all (88%) children who express a transgender identity or exhibit identity distress typically “desist,” resolving those feelings before puberty.”
“The U.S. gender industry is at the center of a growing “medical scandal,” writes journalist Lisa Selin Davis. Evidence of suppressed research, political manipulation, misleading the public, and unethical experimentation on minors has surfaced in recent months, partly in the context of litigation. As these developments make clear, a counselor’s ability to speak freely, provide information, and respond to her client’s wishes is an ethical priority.”
“Kozlowska concluded that 87.7% of children and adolescents diagnosed with gender dysphoria had comorbid psychiatric diagnoses. “
On December 13, 2024, 11 more briefs were filed supporting Chiles. The first was Erin Lee who represented a group of parents who wanted counseling for their children in Colorado but was unable to get counseling due to counselors fearing the Colorado Child Counseling ban. The parents said the lack of counseling severely harmed their kids.
The second brief was from a Christian Medical Association representing 30,000 medical professionals. Here are quotes from this brief:
“Gender transition procedures (GTPs) imperil already at-risk gender dysphoric youth with experimental and unproven hormonal and surgical gender procedures, which medicalize prematurely and permanently. Bans on comprehensive counseling regarding GTPs—such as the ban at issue in this case—contradict the spirit of science and the scientific enterprise and run squarely against evidence-based healthcare, client autonomy, free speech, and the counselor-client relationship.”
“Cross-sex hormones bring a host of risks and adverse health effects. For example, when introduced into a healthy biological male, estrogen significantly increases the risks of blood clots, heart attacks, strokes, breast cancer, insulin resistance, and more—and these risks increase with length of use. Similarly, testosterone use in females significantly increases the risks of heart attacks, strokes, breast and uterine cancer, hypertension, severe acne, and more.” Nash R. Getahun, et al., Cross-sex Hormones and Acute Cardiovascular Events in Transgender Persons: A Cohort Study, Ann. Intern. Med. (2018), 169(4): 205-13. doi: 10.7326/M17-2785
“Among individuals who undergo full transition, the suicide rate significantly increases—not decreases.” Cecilia Dhejne, et al., Long-Term Follow-Up of Transsexual Persons Undergoing Sex Reassignment Surgery: Cohort Study in Sweden, PLOS ONE (Feb. 22, 2011)
“Thousands of individual transitioners regret their transition and are now attempting to de-transition. For example, in late 2017, the subreddit r/detrans (r/detrans, 2020) was revitalized, and in four years, grew from 100 members to more than 46,000 members. Littman (2021) supra. Many of these men and women who transitioned as children are speaking out publicly about the irreversible harm GTPs caused them, demonstrating that some effects of GTPs are permanent.”
Another amicus brief was from the state of Iowa and 11 other states including Alaska, Arkansas, Georgia, Idaho, Kansas, Kentucky, Missouri, Montana, North Dakota, Oklahoma, and South Carolina. Here is a quote: “The freedom to speak one’s mind is not only an aspect of individual liberty—and thus a good unto itself—but also is essential to the common quest for truth and the vitality of society as a whole.”
Another amicus brief was from Changed Movement which is an organization of detransitioners. Here are quotes from their brief:
“CHANGED Movement is a community of friends who once identified as LGBTQ+ and exchanged that identity for a Christian worldview.”
“This case vividly illustrates the profound public harms that result when the government makes itself the arbiter of a perceived truth that ought to be discussed and debated by the people.”
“Through counseling, Daniel says that “God began to work in my heart in unexpected ways” and “I found myself increasingly aligned with what I believe to be God’s design for sexuality and marriage.” As a result, he is now happily married to “my wonderful wife” and has found marriage “more of a blessing than I could have imagined.” Like many other members of the CHANGED Movement community who have had similar experiences, Daniel believes that “change is possible when approached with the right support system that honors both the individual’s struggles and their faith convictions.” See, e.g., Lisa Littman, Individuals Treated for Gender Dysphoria with Medical and/or Surgical Transition who Subsequently Detransitioned: A Survey of 100 Detransitioners (2021)
The final 20 page Chiles brief was submitted on January 15 2025. Here are some important quotes:
“Amidst a nationwide mental-health crisis, many minors struggling with gender dysphoria are seeking the counseling that Kaley Chiles would like to provide. They want help aligning their mind and body rather than chasing experimental medical interventions and risking permanent harm. Yet it is this desperately needed counseling—encouraging words between a licensed counselor and a consenting minor client—that Colorado forbids with its viewpoint-based Counseling Restriction.”
“In the south and northeast, conversations between counselors and clients are constitutionally protected; but in western states, counselors can be silenced and vulnerable minors deprived of urgently needed counseling.”
“They disregard recent studies showing that children with gender dysphoria who seek harmony with their bodies and desire counseling find “significant improvement” with depression, anxiety, and suicidality and experience no “adverse or negative effects.” Cass Review at 153.
“There is a fierce public debate over how best to help minors with gender dysphoria... Colorado has taken a side in this debate and, with a lack of evidence, silenced the other…Every day the Tenth Circuit’s decision remains in place, it denies urgently needed counseling to vulnerable minors. There is no time to lose.”
Supreme Court Hearing Exposes the Lies of the Trans Drug Cult
On October 7, 2025, the Supreme Court heard oral arguments in the case of Chiles v Salazar. Here is a link to the transcript of this hearing.
Here are quotes from this transcript:
On Page 31, the attorney for Chiles stated: Colorado knew that was our position and they had an opportunity to make their record. But the evidence that they submitted and the expert materials undermine their case.
The expert materials admit that they don't have any study addressing precisely what's at issue -- or specifically focusing on precisely what's at issue here, which is voluntary conversations between a licensed professional and a minor. Their -- their expert materials also recognize that they cannot prove harm. We've cataloged all the places in their expert materials on page 22 of our reply brief where they concede that.
And, lastly, their own expert materials recognize that many people have experienced life-changing benefits from this kind of counseling… Colorado certainly cites studies, but those studies suffer from significant flaws. The main flaw in all of them is that they lump together dissimilar approaches. They treat voluntary conversations the same as shock therapy.
On Page 60, CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS stated: “Just because they're engaged in conduct doesn't mean that their words aren't protected.”
Justice Samuel Alito stated: “Suppose an adolescent male comes to a licensed therapist and says he attracted -- he's attracted to other males but feels uneasy and guilty about those feelings, and he wants to end or lessen them and asks for the therapist's help in doing so. Under your interpretation of the statute, is that banned...”
“In the first situation, an adolescent male comes to a licensed therapist and says he's attracted to other males, but he feels uneasy and guilty with those feelings, he wants to end or lessen them, and he asks for the therapist's help in doing so. The other situation is a similar adolescent male comes to a licensed therapist, says he's attracted to other males, feels uneasy and guilty about those feelings, and he wants the therapist's help so he will feel comfortable as a gay young man.
It seems to me you're interpret -- your statute dictates opposite results in those two situations based on the view -- based on the viewpoint expressed. One viewpoint is the viewpoint that a minor should be able to obtain talk therapy to overcome same-sex attraction if that's what he -- or he or she wants. And the other is the viewpoint that the minor should not be able to obtain talk therapy to overcome same-sex attraction even if that is what he or she wants. Looks like blatant viewpoint discrimination.”
Regarding the blatant viewpoint discrimination, the attorney for Chiles stated: “This law's viewpoint discrimination is even worse than we've heard so far this morning because the State of Colorado would allow a 12-year-old without their parents' consent to enter into counseling that would go the opposite way on these issues of gender identity and sexual orientation. But, if that same 12-year-old with their parents' consent want to seek counseling in the opposite direction, the kind that my client would provide, they are not able to do that. This law harms gender-dysphoric kids because the statistics that we've cited in our verified complaint, as well as in the brief that we cited with this Court, indicate that 90 percent of young people who are struggling with gender dysphoria before puberty work their way through it and realign their identity with their sex, but if one of those children go to a counselor and they specifically say that is the help I want, realigning my identity with their sex, they cannot receive that help from someone like my client.”
Trans Drug Cult Junk Science exposed
During the hearing, Justice Amy Coney Barrett repeatedly asked the Colorado attorney for evidence on how child counseling practices were harmful to gender confused children. Here is one exchange:
JUSTICE BARRETT: What is your best evidence on this record, that this kind of talk therapy by a licensed professional, licensed therapist, to minors causes harm?
MS. STEVENSON: I would direct you specifically to the Green study and the Turban study.
The attorney for Chiles then stated:
“On the issue of studies, there was a reference to the Green and Turban studies. All of those studies relied on biased sampling, self-reporting. They conflated aversive techniques with voluntary counseling. They did not isolate licensed counselors. And they did not purport even in their own study to prove causation.”
Note: The 2015 Turban “study” and the 2018 Green “study” were nothing more than junk science. They both were based on extremely unreliable online surveys which consisted of such unreliable responses that most of them were rejected – leading to a highly cherry picked data set. Equally bad, the questions were leading questions that failed to determine the time order of events. For example, while both studies found a correlation between kids who were suicidal and got counseling, neither study bothered to determine whether the kids were suicidal first – causing their parents to get them counseling – or got counseling first – causing them to be suicidal. Subsequent studies have determined that what happens first is that kids suffer from mental health problems, such as Depression, which causes their parents to get counseling for them. In other words, when the time order of events is taken into account, it becomes obvious that counseling does not cause suicidal behavior. Rather it is suicidal behavior that leads to counseling.
In an Amicus brief filed by Washington AG Nick Brown, he also cited the Green and Turban junk science studies as “evidence” that kids should be given toxic Trans Drugs instead of counseling. Therefore, in a separate article, we will review the massive problems with these two studies and compare them to real science studies.
It is time to expose the Trans Cult lies to our kids and parents. We need to work hard to organize parents, grandparents and other concerned citizens. The US Supreme Court can and will help us by overturning Tingley v Ferguson in 2026. But we also need to do our part. Ferguson and Reykdal are both currently ignoring the 2023 US Supreme Court decision in Students v Harvard and the 2024 US Supreme Court decision in Tennessee v Cardona. They are also likely to ignore the coming Supreme Court decision in Chiles v Salazar. Our plan is to submit a comprehensive Family Rights Initiative to the People in 2028 that among many other goals, restores the right of gender confused kids to the child counseling they urgently need. You can help by joining our Washington Family Rights Coalition and sharing this article and the rest of our website articles with your friends and neighbors.
As always, we look forward to your questions and comments.
Regards,
David Spring M. Ed.
Washington Family Rights Coalition




